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Post by Blerhwave on Feb 12, 2012 23:14:19 GMT -5
its just, all your monsters seem to be immune to pain and don't need to breath and stuff, so it makes having something with rubber flesh, although sensible, just repetitive to have not feel pain.
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Post by The Merry Lambfish on Feb 12, 2012 23:18:15 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, Red Claw is a demon... but a demon who spent his entire childhood being burned alive, cut up, having his organs removed, being trapped in the void of space, having his bones shattered, crushed, torn inside out, and watching others being ripped apart right in front of him... That basically explains why he does not feel pain nor emotion. As for Globox, well... If someone has rubber-like material normally used for things other than skin, then I don't see him feeling pain. Also, without any organs or bones of any kind, why would he need to breath? Not to arm chair mod or anything, but maybe you should put that in their bio? Perhaps reasons as to why they can't feel pain would be appropriate, and maybe limiting the number of monsters in your rooster that can't feel pain would help as well.
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Post by Kiryu2012 on Feb 12, 2012 23:23:07 GMT -5
Alright, I'll get to it. and the new monster in plan will be quite a bit different from Red Claw and Globox. In fact, you wouldn't be able to call her a monster without feeling sad.
EDIT: Gave Red Claw a backstory. Hope it helps.
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Post by kingcaesar09 on Jul 4, 2012 17:29:11 GMT -5
Okay, can we do something about monsters with super tough hides/armors? I know some of my monsters have been like that (Gammashock, but I DID tone it down, and Gady is only resistant to artillery and piercing), but really, a lot of FFW and Dragonangel's monsters are like that (especially annoying with the various kinesis/resistance to some elements which makes them even harder to damage) and it's becoming lame. How are we even supposed to harm them? Something can be resistant without being outright unbreakable.
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Post by dragonangel7 on Jul 4, 2012 17:44:00 GMT -5
Ok I admit I am not completely creative with monsters, but first the only monster of mine with super tough hide is the black dragon, but he is supposed to be the most challenging monster on my roster,as for milton his scales are durable, not saying they are super tough, just saying if your going to bite, or slash at him your going to have to put a little effort into it, if you dont like em, dont battle them. Also only my ghidorahs absorb two different elements, at least i dont make them no pain, no air monsters, and justfor the record the black dragon does feel pain, he is just impossible to anger
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Post by kingcaesar09 on Jul 4, 2012 17:49:56 GMT -5
Ok I admit I am not completely creatove with monsters, but first the only monster of mine with super tough hide is the black dragon, but he is supposed to be the most challenging monster on my roster,as for milton his scales are durable, not saying they ar esuper tough, just saying if your going to bute, or slash at him your going to have to put a little effort into it, if you dont like em, dont battle them. Also only my ghidorahs absorb two different elements, at least i dont make them no pain, no air monsters, and the black dragon does feel pain, he is just impossible to anger This has nothing to do with unoriginality. Your monsters are just too hard to damage: Spino Angel: "Super scales: He has tough reptiallian scales that are like an organic armor, and can withstand blunt, and cutting attacks/weapons." Add that to the fact that he resists most elemental attacks. Black Dragon: "his super tough scales are as hard as diamond, and hold back blunt, slicing, and some energy attacks with relative ease." FFW's new monsters have "nigh impenetrable hide" (Mizea) and "impenetrable, period" (Stygius or whatever's its name) hides. Heck, even Kitamura, who in the verse has a literally unbreakable armor, which is a core aspect of her, now has a breakable armor here to make it fair. And it's not nearly impossible to break.
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Post by Blerhwave on Jul 4, 2012 17:57:39 GMT -5
agree with my buddy caes on this one regarding nigh impenetrable hides. to be able to withstand [with ease] "blunt attacks", "slicing attacks" (so cutting/slashing) and "some energy attacks" all with relative ease, well...that makes only a selective few able to damage the black dragon, and it WOULD help to hear which elements damage the scales. still, you have to have a monster able to use that certain element as a projectile of some sort to damage the dragon, and even then, you'd have to spam that specific beam/attack just to damage him in your posts, and that takes the fun out when you have to constantly use the same attack at least once in your post just to damage your enemy. it's fine to have "big bads" in your roster who are the strongest, but like caesar said, they (the kaiju) can be strong without having impenetrable, unattackable hides.
impenetrable hides dont represent a monster's strength. and part of the fun is countering attacks that hit you and damage you while being effective, it's the challenge to be effective through/despite the damage.
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Post by dragonangel7 on Jul 4, 2012 18:03:48 GMT -5
Damnit, fine if anyone one wants me to, I will tone down the armor on milton, and add some sort of breach, or thing the black dragon is weak against, but the kinetic abilities stay
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Post by The Merry Lambfish on Jul 4, 2012 18:06:10 GMT -5
What, nothing about the nigh impenetrable giant trees in the forest? Now THOSE guys are power creeps.
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Post by kingcaesar09 on Jul 4, 2012 18:10:23 GMT -5
What, nothing about the nigh impenetrable giant trees in the forest? Now THOSE guys are power creeps. They're just part of the environment, not something you have to damage (and don't know how).
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Post by Blerhwave on Jul 4, 2012 19:15:22 GMT -5
What, nothing about the nigh impenetrable giant trees in the forest? Now THOSE guys are power creeps. LmAo.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Jul 4, 2012 19:55:46 GMT -5
Honestly, most monsters that list "thick hide" or some variant thereof in their stats don't really go beyond what you'd expect for any generic monster. Take Mizea's for example. The final line of the description is "This combination makes him impervious to military-grade artillery and even the teeth and claws of many kaiju, though blunt-force and energy attacks have been known to bypass this line of defense." That's very basic. You could say that for like 90% of kaiju. Spino Angel is in a similar boat.
Now, in the case of Stygius, I'm only letting that slide because 1) she's still vulnerable to blunt attacks and any attacks directed at her extendo-jaw-thing, 2) she's not all that powerful offensively, and 3) she's not very mobile.
Black Dragon is admittedly borderline. But he IS supposed to be a Big Bad type monster.
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Post by Raven on Jul 4, 2012 20:25:45 GMT -5
I guess this is more of a mod thing, crazy monster defenses and attacks just mean I have to be smarter when fighting said monsters, or rather whoever I'm using at the time has to work out a new strategy. Like say I got Imperior and he's fighting a giant turtle who just tucks in and laughs at his attempted to crack the shell. Well he would then grab a tree sharpen it on his beak and then stab it into one of the limb/tail/head holes to get at that soft inner flesh until he pops out and a few punches to the head means his good defense over most of his body means slag.
Though, I'm not sure if it's good or bad none of my monsters were brought up. lol On one hand being balanced is always good, but being known for powerful monster is also kinda nice.
But to the topic at hand. Yeah, the trend to make bigger and badder monster is there, kinda like a one-upmanship we all are playing to try and prove who can have the strangest or the hardest to deal with.
Kinda chalk it up to cyber-machismo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 20:35:09 GMT -5
IF anyone wants a Power Creep, I could always drag in Typhoon. It would be impossible to bring in Typhoon without it being overpowered. Literally, his power is just meant to be THAT great. Much like Stoorworms power, or Jormungandr.
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Post by GI Jho on Jul 5, 2012 8:50:38 GMT -5
This isn't so much as a complaint than an observation, but has anyone else noticed that, after I made Armageddon, most people feel the need to have a big bad in their roster?
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