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Post by Revenus on Jul 8, 2014 22:27:18 GMT -5
Kaiju in the UCA are magnificently powerful beasts, but I often wonder if they are really so much stronger than the Godzilla beasts of yore.
Analyze it like this:
Your Flier vs Fire Rodan Your Main Kaiju vs GodzillaFW Your Main Tanky One vs AnguirusFW Your Main Villain vs Ghidorah '91 Your Peaceful Guardian vs Heisei Mothra Your Human Mech vs Kiryu '02 Your Stupidly-Hard to Kill Kaiju vs Hedorah Your Enormous Behemoth vs Biolante Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga (depending on species Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs Megaguirus Your World Ending Demon vs Keizer Ghidorah Your Beast of Folklore vs King Caesar Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.O
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Post by Fainis the Sadistic Pansexual on Jul 8, 2014 23:44:35 GMT -5
Quetzar vs. Fire Rodan Could go either way. I'm honestly not sure how much Fire Rodan would be affected by flames. The uranium beam would have a lot of its bite taken off by Quet's heat immunity, but the concussive/pushing force should at least phase him. Quetz is way more agile, but he's also frail. And Heisei Rodan excels at getting in your face and tearing you up. That'd be Rodan's best bet to win, just to go for it and slam Quetz out of the air before mauling him. Your Main Kaiju vs GodzillaFW Uh... uh... I dun really have a main monster. Or at least not one who's here. I guess the closest one would be Drakia, and she's retired. But, still... in that case... Poor Drakia. Your Main Tanky One vs AnguirusFW Arc vs. FW Anguirus Poor Angy. Your Main Villain vs Ghidorah '91 Fainis vs. Heisei Ghidorah Poor Ghiddy. Your Peaceful Guardian vs Heisei Mothra Plume vs. Heisei Mothra Scales would stop Plume's energy attacks, but I dun think Mothra could survive his melee blows. And besides that, I don't see how Mothra could put Plume down. Her antennae beams would hurt him, but not bad enough to endanger his life or force a retreat. Size difference could give Plume some trouble, but Heisei Mothra is neither very physically capable or very fast, so that basically only makes her a bigger target. Your Human Mech vs Kiryu '02 Ranger vs. Kiryu Hm... the two are about the same offensively- Ranger is more versatile, but Kiryu has the Absolute Zero Canon to level the playing field... but Ranger has the edge defensively. Kiryu is awful frail. A few good melee hits put him down hard. And Ranger can def dish those out well. Your Stupidly-Hard to Kill Kaiju vs Hedorah Uh... Arc, I guess vs. Hedorah. Arc, but only by means of being an electric monster. Your Enormous Behemoth vs Biolante Uh... uh... Fainis is the biggest one in my UCA crew. And against Biollante... She wins, but, again, only by means of being a fire monster. Plants dun likeh deh fire. Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga (depending on species Segment vs. Kamacuras. Segment by means of insane insect strength. Segment vs. Kumonga. Kumonga by means of that nasty stinger and webbing. Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs Megaguirus Quetzar vs. Megaguirus. Poor Megs. Your World Ending Demon vs Keizer Ghidorah Uh... the only world-killing monster I have is Yabdrillsk. And he can literally encircle the Earth from high orbit. Keizer is fucked. Your Beast of Folklore vs King Caesar Kedos vs. King Caesar The golem gets turned into mud. Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.O I have a few, but the first is Manic, who would get murdered by the female MUTO, but might actually pull ahead of the male if he can land a solid hit.
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Post by Revenus on Jul 8, 2014 23:50:09 GMT -5
Added two new categories.
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Post by Tenshi the Sunkern on Jul 8, 2014 23:56:18 GMT -5
Salavance vs Fire Rodan: Uhhh, this is going to be short. Salavance's firepower is just too much for him to take. Also, with how maneuverable and fast Salavance is in the air, FR isn't going to stand a chance, unless he gets lucky and pecks out Salavance's eyes or something. Also, Dark Matter is a bitch to handle, and it's gonna wreck FR worse than SMG did. Crigan vs. GFW: All depends on if Crigan stays at a distance and bombards him. If he does, he wins. If he gets up close, he's getting his head ripped off. Tyralus vs. FW Angy: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yuuka vs. Ghidorah 91: Can someone say, shiskebab? Gulodus (Don't have that much of a better choice) vs. Heisei Mothra: I actually see Mothra having this. The powder and beams at a range will wear Gulodus down. Tevedrus vs. Kiryu: Either Tevedrus hits Kiryu and he shortcircuts, or Kiryu hits Tevedrus and knocks Tenshi out cold. Draw. EDIT: Curse you, Inicdan... Scylla vs. Hedorah: PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT Charybdis vs. Biollante: Ummm... there were weeds there before? I only see a molten pile of slag and an oversized mermaid. EDIT 2: INICDAN, YOU ARE KILLING ME! Volucris vs. Kamacarus: DUUUUUR! Mara vs. Megaguirous: Lightning>Flying Salavance vs. keizer Ghidorah: Uhhhh... Keizer is getting a massive hole in his chest, end of story. Charybdis vs. KC: This golem is going to end up across the horizon, I swear. Scylla vs. MUTO: It doesn't metter if it is the male or the female, both are gonig to end up charred and devoured. Scylla is just too strong.
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Post by Revenus on Jul 9, 2014 0:07:43 GMT -5
Adding new categories soon...
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Post by Tenshi the Sunkern on Jul 9, 2014 0:09:12 GMT -5
Adding new categories soon... There's no need for new categories... we have enough right here and now, I insist.
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Post by Revenus on Jul 9, 2014 0:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by The Merry Lambfish on Jul 9, 2014 0:21:55 GMT -5
I'll bite. Your Flier vs Fire RodanOkay, um, spoilers to anyone who isn't an insect nut… Tarakona, the dragonfly kaiju. Now, he is considered a Class 4 terataur, which as a general rule in my universe, would be roughly equal to Heisei Godzilla. Fire Rodan, being weaker than him, would likely lose to Tara as well. He is also slower, and far, FAR less agile. Even real life dragonflies are insane fliers. Your Main Kaiju vs GodzillaFWI don't really have a main kaiju per-say. But I'll go with Talizan, as he was my first. Now he'd be immune to the atomic breath, making this solely a melee battle. As Talizan is a Class 4 terataur, it would be a fairly even match, though his extendable talons and flight would be a definite advantage. While Heisei Godzilla may be stronger than FW Godzilla, this is actually a far better match. Heisei Godzilla can barely fight melee at all. Your Main Tanky One vs AnguirusFWWell, FW Anguirus is really weak. Not a tank at all. Got KOed by rolling into a mountain. Against Suzumebachi (retired, for those who are new and wondering who the hell that is) he'd probably roll into her and knock himself out. Your Main Villain vs Ghidorah '91… Damnit, I have three. Regardless. this is just Heisei Ghidorah, nothing that noteworthy. All three Maluvor should be able to take him out one way or another. Your Peaceful Guardian vs Heisei MothraI got, quite literally, no "peaceful guardian". Not even in my full 'verse. Mothra wins by default! Your Human Mech vs Kiryu '02Praetorian has the strength, Alondra has the hand-to-hand training, and the Sentinel is also far heavier armoured than Kiryu is. Larger too. It'd be a good fight, but I can't see Kiryu winning it in the end. Your Stupidly-Hard to Kill Kaiju vs HedorahAt first I was going to put down Suzumebahci again, but then I remembered Crydmarr. Try killing fear, Hedorah! AHAHAHAHA! Your Enormous Behemoth vs Biollante: Suzumebachi again! Do we do UCA version? (150 meters tall and 400 000 tons vs Bio's 120 meters and 200 000) Or do we use the official in-universe version? (230 meters tall and 2 287 000 tons) UCA version? Aww. Meanies. Bio has the regen, Suzy has the nigh-unbreakable armor. Long match… would probably come down to who wears out the other first. EDIT: Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga Tarakona vs Kamacurus? Lunch time for Tara. Tarakona vs Kumonga? I'd imagien his energy surge could free him from any webbing. At that point, his physical attacks should outdo the spider's. Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs MegaguirusOkay, I got two, one for fast, one for annoying. Tarakona's adult form, like Megs, a dragonfly. Problem here is that he has a lot of energy weapons, which Megaguirus hates, and isn't a pushover in the melee department either. And if TK is correct, Megaguirus's top speed is Mach 3, which still makes her slower. As for super annoying, that would be Vesica. Also a flier, but has a bad habit of shrouding the battlefield in darkness so the opponent can't see her and spamming teleportation. Sicne she is also primarily ranged, she;d probably win too, especially if Megs can't see. Your World Ending Demon vs Keizer Ghidorah Okay, I'll have to go outside the UCA from now on. They're not a demon, per-say, but they're the only world-enders I have. The Vaxorg, essentially a horde of giant alien army ants that terraform planets into hives. As for the battle… *Watches as Keizer gets torn apart by an entire army of monsters* Your Beast of Folklore vs King CaesarWell, only one matches that: The Dark Hunter! Poor KC... Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.ONo genetic experiments… I guess the closest I have to a mutant is Talizan, again. His species, the gladiodactyle, were pack hunting arboreal terataurs, with no solar powers at all. Talizan's egg was ejected into space and for millions of years absorbed solar radiation, transforming him into a solar powered monster with some fiery abilities. Vs Muto (Orga would have worked better, TBH)… well, I'd have to know which Muto. Male? Female? Both? Against either, he's have the advantage, but against both at the same time it would be a lot more even.
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Post by GI Jho on Jul 9, 2014 16:22:41 GMT -5
I guess I'll take a stab at this... Auroros vs Fire Rodan: Auroros is pretty fragile, though Fire Rodan isn't very bulky either. It'll depend on who gets the first hit in, though Auroros has a lot more firepower at his disposal than Fire Rodan, so Auroros can take it. Kori Kahn vs GodzillaFW: Kori's weak to heat, so Godzilla can put a serious dent into him. However, Kori has passable bulk and can easily freeze Godzilla into place repeatedly to slowly wear him down. I'd say it'd be a draw. Haiiro-Kisaki vs AnguirusFW: Haiiro wins by sitting her fat ass on him. Armageddon vs Ghidorah '91: I was going to use someone else, but they're not here yet for plot reasons. Armageddon can easily win this due to insane regeneration and decent firepower, in addition to the ability to drain energy through his bite. Kori Kahn (again) vs Heisei Mothra: Kori Kahn can easily freeze Mothra mid air and then just pummel her in melee combat. He's got this. Erebus vs Kiryu '02: Erebus has a shit ton of firepower to take down armored opponents. His Bunker Busters should punch holes his Kiryu's armored frame with decent ease, so he's got this. Ferrum Magnus vs Hedorah: I don't think Ferrum Magnus could really do anything to Hedorah. I mean, he has ice and fire and lasers, but would they hurt Hedorah? So I guess Hedorah wins here. Vishnu vs Biollante: Vishnu is actually strong enough to toss Biollante around like a rag doll, and has a lot of attacks that damage the opponent's cells. However, Biollante's acid could do a number to his armor. I'd put this as a tie. Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga: I can't do this one, since I lack an insect. Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs Megaguirus: Can't really do this one either. Orsa-Terminus vs Keizer Ghidorah: *snickers* Titernia vs King Caesar: Titernia has a lot of magical earth powers, so she could probably defeat poor Caesar before he could even get close. Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.O: I have a few in-verse, but none at the UCA.
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Post by OmegaBearBeast on Jul 9, 2014 21:25:48 GMT -5
I only have something like half of these, but I'll try anyways.
Flier vs. Fire Rodan/Megaguirus I'm going with Orkan, Beast of the Winds. Let's see... Orkan's tornado blanket keeps him safe from projectiles, including beams unless they are lasers or plasma. I don't remember what is Rodan's beam made out of, so they may or may not be able to harm him. If it turns that it can't hurt him, then Fire Rodan has no real way of harming Orkan at all. If he attempts to fly, The Gale Master will use his airbending to throw him to the ground. If he tries to attack him with melee, he will have to hit very, very hard, again because of Orkan's gust shell, not to mention getting close to him in the first place is difficult unless you can anchor yourself firmly in the ground, as he will push his enemies away with a blast of wind. He never lets his opponents get close. Thus, I choose the Gale Master, Orkan. Orkan again for Megaguirus, for reasons similar as above. He is very dangerous to other fliers, and if their melee strength isn't enough, they are in for a tough time.
Main Monster vs. Godzilla I have several monsters leading Beast Blood, but Gadon is the one the story kicks off with, and my most recognizable one. Godzilla will have to stay from the 200 meters radius of the Gaar, or it will wear him down a lot. The thermonuclear ray would hurt the fluffy poofball of death, but he has a big advantage in melee combat. Coupled with his melee weapons and toxins, he would be able to turn the King of the Monsters into dissolved lizard if that one doesn't spam his ray. I go with Gadon.
Tank vs. Anguirus/Hedorah Kitamura is my go-to tank. The mamma bear is a powerhouse that requires a powerhouse to challenge her. Between her skills, strength, toughness and pyrokinesis... I frankly do not see Anguirus or Hedorah having much chances, if at all, against the Martial Master. Kit.
Behemoth vs. Biollante I guess I'll pick Masser; while she is as tall as my other bears, she's the most brutal out of them. The most "lumbering behemoth"-like, I think. Now, Masser is strong enough to throw Biollante like a chew toy, not to mention her firepower. The acid stuff Biollante spits would hurt, but only slightly. The teddybear is solidly built and even acids take a while to tear through all that muscle and armor, so... Masser.
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Post by Omegarex24 on Jul 10, 2014 9:40:39 GMT -5
Might as well...
Your Flier vs Fire Rodan Raidion is my giant flier, and roughly equivalent in size. Rodan had durability, but Raidion has speed and mobility, so he can probably take him in a fight.
Your Main Kaiju vs GodzillaFW I don't really have a main "kaiju" (as Riptide is my star attraction). The closest would be Halcitrox, and it's not much a of a competition there either.
Your Main Tanky One vs AnguirusFW Harbinger, easily.
Your Main Villain vs Ghidorah '91 There isn't really a main villain for my roster. There are some endgame/boss type monsters, but not really any of the recurring threat type.
Your Peaceful Guardian vs Heisei Mothra The closest would probably be Rahotep (not in the UCA), but he's hardly peaceful, what with being an alien bioweapon and all. He still beats Mothra pretty easily.
Your Human Mech vs Kiryu '02 I've got three or for of these, all of which are significantly more powerful than Kiryu, AZC or not.
Your Stupidly-Hard to Kill Kaiju vs Hedorah Magmire, no contest.
Your Enormous Behemoth vs Biolante All my stupidly big monsters are also the final boss types, so...
Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga (depending on species) Don't have one
Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs Megaguirus Raidion again. Megs has durability, Raidion can just be a big bug zapper though.
Your World Ending Demon vs Keizer Ghidorah Both the Apocalypse Dragon and Cipher easily destroy Keizar Ghidorah.
Your Beast of Folklore vs King Caesar Don't really have one.
Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.O Carcharius would probably beat the MUTO, as he's really freaking hard to put down once he gets going.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Jul 10, 2014 14:08:21 GMT -5
Your Flier vs Fire Rodan Pavoroc has Rodan beat in pretty much every category except for maybe durability, but even that’s mitigated by the fact that Pavoroc is effectively almost immune to beam weapons. So yeah, my bird takes this.
Your Main Kaiju vs GodzillaFW Suchodon. Could probably go either way, depending in no small part on where the fight takes place. If it’s somewhere with a lot of cover and/or water, Suchodon would probably take it (especially if he lures Godzilla into the water). A more open area would favor Godzilla more, but even then it’d be a hell of a fight. Another big factor would be the speed/effectiveness of Godzilla’s regeneration, since it wasn’t really demonstrated in GFW. If it’s on the low end for Godzillas and not really battle-effective, like Showa or GxMG/SOS, then that obviously puts things in Suchodon’s favor. If it’s on the high end, like Heisei Godzilla, then Suchodon will have a lot of trouble overcoming it. He HAS dealt with a super-regenerating opponent before, but he did so by pinning it down and suffocating it for the better part of an hour until its cells simply died from being starved of oxygen. That tactic obviously wouldn’t really work against a creature that apparently gives no fucks about having to breathe in the first place.
Your Main Tanky One vs AnguirusFW Tortonne I guess. Would be a pretty silly fight, since it would basically consist of Anguirus Tunderballing into Tortonne repeatedly until Tortonne gets annoyed and just KO’s Ang with some random wrestling move or chucks him into a building/cliff/whatever.
Your Main Villain vs Ghidorah '91 I don’t really have a main villain, at least monster-wise.
Your Peaceful Guardian vs Heisei Mothra ...Ophion I guess? Mothra would be completely incapable of harming him due to his deflective scales.
Your Human Mech vs Kiryu '02 Oh god. Orion could take out Kiryu with one or two shots from the sniper rifle, Shotcannon, or Railgun. It’d be over just as quickly if he went melee, what with the Monomolecular blades and all.
Your Stupidly-Hard to Kill Kaiju vs Hedorah Hmm. Myrmek, maybe? Not so much hard to kill as requiring a semi-specific type of weapon to kill, due to the fact that it’s a walking ant colony and most typical weapons simply blow through it with little overall effect on the colony as a whole. But regardless, Hedorah takes this simply because the ants that compose Myrmek can’t really do anything to Hedorah without killing themselves in the process.
Your Enormous Behemoth vs Biollante Using Orakai or Ujiak just wouldn’t be fair, so I’ll go with Sauropede. There’s not a whole lot he can do against an acid-spewing, spear-tendriled, crazy-fast-regenerating plant monster. He’d certainly beat her around a lot, but he’d get worn down eventually.
Your Giant Insect/Arachnid vs Kamacuras/Kumonga (depending on species) I have several, but I’ll go with Scorpius. Kamacuras is lunch. Against Kumonga, the outcome would likely be decided by whether or not Scorpius can charge in before Kumonga sprays enough webbing to immobilize him, which he most likely could do. So yeah, ol’ Scorps wins most of the time.
Your Obnoxiously Fast/Just Plain Annoying Kaiju vs Megaguirus I’m gonna say Blunderbuss just for the helluvit, even if he’s not really any faster than my other flyers. He’s a giant June bug with ungodly tough armor and all the flying skill of normal June bugs (aka: hardly any). Megs really won’t be able to hit him, and even if she does she won’t do anything other than probably make him lose control and crash into some random part of the scenery (which, again, wouldn’t do anything to him). On the other hand, Blunderbuss has literally zero offensive weaponry. About all he can do is crash head-on into opponents, but even that generally isn’t intentional on his part. Heaven help Megs if he does, though, because it’ll be like she got nailed by a kaiju-sized wrecking ball.
Your World Ending Demon vs Keizer Ghidorah Not a demon, but Ujiak. Considering he’s about a kilometer tall, he could literally just step on Keizer Ghids. I suppose if I wanted to be more fair, I could use one of the lesser Scourge, but I don’t feel like being fair against stupid Horsey Ghidorah.
Your Beast of Folklore vs King Caesar Pavoroc and Ophion. Poor KC is boned against either one of them.
Your Genetic Experiment/Mutant vs M.U.T.O. Can’t answer this because like 75% of my roster is genetic experiments and mutants.
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Post by Vatarian on Jul 12, 2014 5:08:30 GMT -5
Flier- Either Cerataurus or Beelzebub could literally 1HKO Fire Rodan, and Cerataurus is going to laugh at his fire.
Main- Not sure I have a main. Huh. Nucleaphage drains, then decapitates, Beelzebub zips around and wears him down over a long period of time, Cerataurus dies, Xeno stalemates, and Scourge kills the shit out of him and posts a pic of his severed head on instagram.
Tank- Literally any of my monsters could roflstomp Anguirus. Poor guy.
Villain- Beelzebub evades and kills Ghidorah, Scourge just kills him.
Mech- Scourge. His dodging abilities are too high and one head-shot from his cannon is going to down Kyryu.
Stupidly hard- Huh. The Nucleaphage, mostly due to the fact that suffocating it is damn near impossible, and it can harness electromagnetic energy.
Behemoth- Again, the Nucleaphage. Oy. He wins. Narrowly, as the regeneration and tendrils are going to make for a long, hard battle..
Obnoxiously fast- Beelzebub literally dribbles Megaguiras like a basket-ball before slam-dunking her into a hoop woven out of her intestines.
Demon- Beelzebub, again, though he may have moderate difficulty.
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Post by jakethefirespitter on Sept 6, 2014 2:03:00 GMT -5
Whew, been a while. This here is a neat thread, but I only have two monsters so far, so...
Jake vs GFW Godzilla
Poor poor Jake. He can take a hell of a lot of punishment, but this is GFW Goji. Fast, strong, and intelligent. Jake would put up a decent fight, but he's fucked in the long run.
Hmm. Who would Godzilla Junior go against?
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Post by Revenus on Sept 7, 2014 15:25:45 GMT -5
I'd say Hedorah.
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